Demand Dynamics Chicago conf notes Apr 05

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Demand Dynamics Chicago conf notes Apr 05

Postby sam » Sat Dec 03, 2005 3:58 pm

sam's notes from Pornography: Driving the Demand in International Sex Trafficking.

These notes are observations of mine gleaned from speakers and mixed with my own thoughts and shouldn't be taken as representing any of the speakers paraphrased.

MacKinnon's keynote speech

Obscenity laws are about morality, not harm done to people. Pornographers are pimps, third party profiteers.

Management can't offer to pay a woman employee more in order to call her a filthy cum-hungry whore, it's sexual harassment.

Women in brothels complain about porn being shown in pre-rooms because men demand what is shown.

Porn is largely supply driven, as in the more available it is the more people want. People don't use because they want, they want because they use. Pornographers are pushers who press porn into people's lives, hooking them, and then supplying the ever-increasing, ever-intensifying appetites.

CEDAW prohibits "prostitution of others" but USA hasn't signed yet. Recognizes porn creates the demand for prostitution and trafficking. The words "for gain" were purposefully left out of CEDAW to go after demand because tricks don't earn money like pimps do yet are the driving force of prostitution. Pornographers have said they could not survive if they had to pay for all the damage they do.

Almost no one in pornography sells porn of themselves; Candida Royalle to Jenna Jameson have quit performing once they moved into making porn themselves. South Korean women are increasingly pimping Phillipinas as they manage to themselves escape having to turn tricks.

Making porn is sex trafficking because the sex acts are transported for the sexual use of others. Pornographers sell other people for sex. European laws recognize porn as exploitation but change in people is slow.

Prohibition criminalizes everyone but abolishion doesn't criminalize victims.

Criminalizing buyers promotes sex equality. Soliciting prostitutes is a form of sexual discrimination, is sex harassment when it happens to any woman.

"See, she likes it" functions as the silencing of women. Porn silences women, its authority overrules what women say. When porn is played to mixed groups, men get more vocal and women get more silent. Antiporn positions are not spoken or written in mainstream media and that's silencing women and keeping them apart from likeminded others.

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Dr. Esohe Aghatise, Founding Director Iroko Onius on Sex Trafficking, Prostitution and Pornography - Different Aspects of Sexual Violence

The IMF in the 1980's directly fueled increases in trafficking and prostitution in Nigeria. Madams rent "street space" to prostitutes. One madam chained "her woman" to a bed when she went out.

In the past few years the ages of the girls have gotten lower. Nigerians are lied to and don't believe things are as bad as they really are. The silence of brutally tortured victims keeps the reality hidden.

Parental consent is seen as meaning the girl-child's consent. Girls are sometimes thrown out of their homes when they refuse to be sold to traffickers.

Why is porn advertised with "virgins" when logic says it feels no different to the masturbating watcher. But the idea of 'deflowering' or 'dirtying' something innocent or pure gets men's dicks harder, the 'fantasy' of a breaking a virginity is sexier because of the sense of defilement in men's imaginations.

In Norway 2003 there were 2 cases of Nigerian women trafficked and in 2004 there were just about 100 cases.

It's impossible to end trafficking when legalization keeps commercializing women's bodies.

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Gail Dines and Dr. Anna Agathangleou on The Big Business of Pornography

AVN doesn't talk about sex or women or feminism, it talks about money, business and technology.

We live in an image based culture.

Playboy didn't make sex a commodity, it made consumerism sexy. Penthouse sold explicit sex and not things and since advertisers control magazines Penthouse never supplanted Playboy. Hustler had no ads in order to get around advertiser control.

average Playboy reader = 37k a year
average Hustler reader = 37k a year

Not different consumers, just different marketing strategy- one for middle class men who imagine themselves wealthier and one for middle class men imagining themselves 'slumming it'.

Guyana's phone sex industries are about 40% of the entire country's GNP.

General Motors was the largest distributor of porn in 2004. AT&T, MCI and Time Warner (world's largest media conglomerate) are the new bog targets, and activists should ask for billions, not millions.

Al Cooper at Stanford did research he gave permission to AVN to publish about how 20% of porn consumers are addicts. AVN used the info to create a plan of action to keep addicts addicted and intentionally delay their satisfaction to draw as much $$$ out of them as possible. AVN also developed "business looking" porn sites so addicted men wouldn't get in trouble at work or with women they lived with.- helped hide the abnormally large consumption of addicts from people they know would express concerns.

AVN also concluded having "sex advice" columns keeps women coming back to porn sites because they're not big consumers of porn itself.

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Dr. Melissa Farley and Dr. Neil Malamuth on Research on Pornography & Prostitution: Convergence Among Various Methodologies

Women who had porn made of them had a statistically significant increase in post traumatic stress disorder (ptsd).

Trick communities are strong on the internet.

Research on tricks (142) vs. not tricks (270) advertised for in college newspaper and taken from psych classes.

Tricks use porn a lot more than non-tricks
- tricks use more magazines and videos
- both have the same internet porn use

Tricks more likely to rape by Malamuth research indicator. The more porn they used the more likely they were to rape.

Tricks admitted much more coercion and force on non-prostituted women sex partners than non-tricks.

Quotes:

"She gives up the right to say 'no'. I own her that time."

"Guys get off on controlling women. It is paid rape."

"You're making them subservient. And there's the sham of enjoyment."

"I prefer renting an organ for 10 minutes than masturbating."

"I think about getting even."

"Prostitution takes away a part of themselves they can't get back."

"Sometimes I feel it's wrong but I try to block that out."

"I've never tried to rescue a girl. You can get killed doing that."

(from a trick who is also a pimp) "It's sad women are taught to be treated as pieces of meat."

"If a buddy has a girlfriend who's a stripper, she's forever referred to as "the stripper" instead of Jennifer."

(from a porn performer) "We're not showgirls, we're prostitutes pretending to be showgirls."
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Postby sam » Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:03 pm

boosted for the john quotes
"Your orgasm can no longer dictate my oppression"

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Postby sunnysmiles » Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:57 pm

Oh man - i wish i was there! that sounds totally awesome!
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