genderberg.com

http://www.alternet.org
/sex/51408/?comments=view&cID=650238&pID=650201#c650238

I'm going to clip some of my favorite comments so far (it's gonna be a looong thread, folks). Most interesting to me is the way the usual gang of woman-haters use women's participation in pornstitution as an excuse to justify their sexist stereotypes about gold-digging, manipulative bitches who rule over men with pussy power. I also find the lack of mentioning drugs problematic; usually these women outwardly disavow their own drug use while remarking on how many other women they've seen trapped by addictions. -sam

Cathyblj, "A true feminist wants life to be better for everyone, not just herself."


pdxstudent, "If you were really free to choose sex-work, there would have been a variety of options besides sex-work that would have amounted to the same (just as questionable) financial freedom you argue sex-work brought you."


nkmarti, "What feminist sex workers, as they might see themselves, have to acknowledge, is that the blonde, big boobed, white stereotype--depending on where you strip--makes more money than women of color, women with cellulite, women with smaller breasts. Sexually expressing yourself can be empowering, making money can also be so, but when some people's sex work brings less choices and financial gains than others, the industry--and those who claim to be feminst--need to take that into account."


Theriomorph, "There are plenty of personal stories in which the stripper or prostitute was raped, tortured, sold, killed, etc., too, but on the whole, we're not reading or discussing those personal stories - it's just not titillating enough. We'd rather hear about fishnets and false choice so we don't have to actually confront the systems and create real economic alternatives."


Poindexter, "Stripping is not empowerment. A living wage and the right to live free from exploitation is empowerment."


Davidco, "In an Orwellian twist, the rawest exploitation of women is merchandized as an exercise of female domination over stupid men whose brains are in their dicks....The full force of multinational capital is arrayed against clear thought on what is happening in this aspect of our deeply wounded culture. We had better get to work soon."

I love this too. Kudos to delphyne and company who make me proud to be on this side.

the barf bucket gets around -sam

http://www.thefword. org.uk/blog/2007/may#000830

Pass the bucket…

…and not so I can put my £5 in it - so I can puke!

Today’s question: Is Stripping Feminist?. And today’s answer is: No. Or possibly Oh Please - How Can We Still Be Having This “Debate”?

If you read to the end of the article you’ll see that Sarah Katherine Lewis’ conclusion is that stripping IS feminist, not because of the whole dancing about in your underwear bit. No - because you earn good money and so you can have more free time and more economic power to do feminist-y things.

Well if it’s just about money I look forward to the follow-up articles: Is Drug-Dealing Feminist? Is Human Trafficking Feminist? Is Directing Snuff Movies Feminist? and of course Is Manufacturing Child Pornography Feminist?

So that leaves us with four questions to answer:

1. Is it easier to “be a feminist” when you’re doing well financially? Definitely. For starters there is a poverty line below which idealism simply doesn’t exist, there’s a point where all a person cares about or can care about is how to get enough food, water, shelter and medicine to survive the next 24 hours. People below that line may be feminists but they certainly can’t afford to be activists. By the same token you’d need to be above that line to be an activist for any cause - socialism, environmentalism or even the anti-women’s movement. If you can’t afford pens and paper, you can’t write your manifesto.

2. Was it possible for Lewis to be financially capable of activist feminism without stripping? Yes, of course it was. She suggests repeatedly that her only options were stripping and waiting tables. Not so. Clearly others from her generation emerged as powerful voices without removing their clothes for money, so why can’t she? Remember this woman was stripping in the mid-90s, not the 1800s. I was at college in the mid-90s too and I sold electric underfloor heating on commission in my holidays. I also ran a college teashop during term and later did a well-paid placement with an investment bank over the summer break. She was already at college when she started. This isn’t about keeping her head above the poverty line - this is by her own admission about eating in nicer restaurants.

3. Is there something “wrong” with stripping? Yes. When I worked in finance, both in London and Tokyo, the company regularly entertained clients at strip clubs. I usually wasn’t invited, this gave me less access to clients and very tangibly diminished my career prospects. In Tokyo, where the problem was more widespread, the spill-over into attitudes towards women was obvious: lewd remarks and women not being taken seriously as colleagues went hand-in-hand. When I complained to human resources, it turned out the guy assigned to discuss my complaint was one of the most regular visitors to these places. Creating an environment where women are unable to earn good money other than through stripping is unfair on those women who don’t want to strip.

But it runs even deeper than that. Not all strippers are making money and not all strippers are doing the job of their own volition. This very interesting article starts off innocuously enough. By the end we’re looking at women who appear to be underage being trafficked into the country, told they’ve run up debts and must strip and possibly have sex to get out of debt. The author is also underage when she enters the industry. The clubs encourage the myth that strippers make a lot of money, to get more women interested in the job. The real money is made by the clubs who are charging each woman $100 up to $300 and then charging customers exorbitant prices for drinks too. Feeding that industry, both by working in it when you have other options and by writing about it in such glowing terms, will lead to more trafficking, more women working under duress, more women being pushed over into prostitution against their will. In other words more RAPE.

4. strip adCould the “good” achieved with the stripping money outweigh the damage done by participating in the industry? Well really depends how you measure “good”. But let’s try to figure it out by having a look at the great feminist and humanitarian works of our guide in these matters - Sarah Katherine Lewis…

…except there aren’t any. She’s written a book. It’s called Indecent, How I Make It And Fake It As A Girl For Hire. I read the intro and it reads like a homage to sex work, prattling on about how exciting the idea of working as a whore is to little girls.



She also claims she writes feminist articles. I found a few online. They all boiled down to how sex work is actually feminist, and how all the feminists have got it wrong. That’s all she does.

The strip clubs must be rubbing their hands in glee at the prospect of all the extra money coming in from young feminists lured into the industry by Lewis, not to mention guys convinced that maybe it’s not such a bad thing after all arriving as customers.

I hope she gets commission from the clubs for writing rubbish like that. And I hope supposedly serious media outlets like Alternet (which I once respected) see the light and don’t bother publishing such rubbish again…

A guest post contributed by Kate Smurthwaite