Josef Fritzl forced his daughter to act out porn

[delphyne]

But there's no connection between pornography and sexual abuse and rape. No none at all:

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.htm ... page_id=34

Fritzl's sick porn demands on daughter
Tuesday, March 17, 2009

Fritzl hides behind the blue binder for the second day
Incest monster Josef Fritzl's daughter told today how he made her act out sick sexual acts after forcing her to watch hard core pornography.
Shocked jurors at Fritzl's trial heard his daughter Elisabeth spell out terrifying details of her ordeal during her 24 years of captivity.

Elisabeth, now 42, finally had her day in court through harrowing recordings made during a video link statement.

It was a pre-condition of her testimony that she would only testify against her father if she never saw him again.

So instead she gave 11 hours of excruciating evidence of her ordeal to prosecutors last year and these tapes were played in court.

Elisabeth told how her father would bring boxes of hardcore pornographic videos into the secret cellar and ordered her to act out the scenes in them in rape sessions that went on for hours.

The four-man, four-woman panel sitting in judgement on her father heard her tell how she stopped struggling against him because she knew her life depended on being co-operative with her jailer.

She also talks of how she suffered grave internal injuries from the oversized sex toys he used upon her.

In the agonising testimony, Elisabeth detailed the most crucial aspect of the case - the death of baby Michael in the darkness in 1996.

Michael died of breathing complications three days after birth. Fritzl casually tossed the child's body in the stove used to heat the house.

Fritzl denies the child's murder, and also denies enslaving his daughter but admits incest and false imprisonment.

And he pleaded 'partially guilty' to rape and to 'massive coercion' over threats to release poison gas to kill Elisabeth and their children if they ever tried to escape.

During the course of the trial this week, the court will hear evidence from social workers, police and construction experts about how Fritzl fooled the world for 24 long years.

None of the cellar family will testify in person, nor will Fritzl's wife Rosemarie, who now lives alone in Linz and has begun divorce proceedings.

[SaltyC]

But Delphyne, don't you see, Fritzl is a monster, not human, a monster, like the creature from the black lagoon, it's not the pornographer's fault that there are creatures from the black lagoon around ruining everything for normal male supremacists.

[delphyne]

Yeah it's probably just a coincidence this monster picked porn. He could have acted out the Teletubbies or Twelve Angry Men, so its just total chance that a monster should have happened upon porn to assist in the torture and rape of his daughter.

My apologies to male supremacists everywhere for imagining that women-hating/abusing material could have any effect on women-hating men's behaviour towards women in the real world. What a silly idea.

[pisaquari]

Yes yes, millions of *i*s*o*l*a*t*e*d* i*n*c*i*d*e*n*t*s* (<no, individual letters DO NOT make a word!).

[phio gistic]

butbut....

"Rudolf Mayer, the lawyer of incest beast Josef Fritzl, said his client is "not a sex monster".
Mayer argued evil Fritzl, 74, loved his daughter Elisabeth "in his own way"."

xttp://austriantimes.at/index.php?id=11653

Defence lawyer Rudolf Mayer began outlining his case by saying he was perhaps, next to Fritzl, the most hated man in Austria.
He read out some of the numerous death threats levelled against him for daring to defend a 'monster'.
But he told the court: 'Leave everything you have heard aside. We are not dealing with a monster here but a man. You have to leave all the emotional stuff aside.
'My client could have argued that he was insane. He could have claimed that he was not normal and try to fool the psychiatrists. But he did not do that.
'Instead he admits he always wanted a second family, wanted to care for that second family.'

xttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... ngeon.html

“The exceptional aspect of this case is that my client did not behave like a monster,” said Rupert Mayer, his defence lawyer. “The special point is that he chose his daughter for this role, that he created children together with her and looked after them . . . he bought them schoolbooks, celebrated Christmas and birthdays with them.” He appealed to the jury to be objective. “If you just want to have sex, you don’t have children,” Mr Mayer said. “As a monster, I’d kill all of them downstairs.”

xttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 920729.ece

See? Not a monster at all. Just a loving father who wanted a(nother) family and was a little messed up, which can naturally all be blamed on his mother. Raping your daughter 3,000 times, forcing her to have the children of the rapes, murdering one of them and keeping them all captive is not the behavior of a monster. It's normal, understandable male behavior, according to Rupert Mayer. A real monster would have murdered his entire family, not just one of them.

This porn-using, prostitute abusing, raping, murdering, kidnapper is just a regular guy.

That's setting the bar pretty high to score the title of monster.

[rmott]

I have just been reaing Andrea Dworkin again, and recovering from my trauma of being made into porn. I know in every cell of my body that Fritzl is no one-off.
Why should anyone be surpised he used and created porn in all his activities.
What really anger me is his extreme of prostituted women is dismissed as non-news. Well, they were "bad women" so it could be rape and sadistic violence what he did to them.
But in my opinion he "rehearse" on prostituted women's bodies the violence he would later do to his family. Also coz society does not give a damn about prostitued women in brothels, Fritzl thought he was invincible.