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This really takes the cake.. Obama -supporter T-shirt

Postby elfeminista » Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:58 pm

http://www.tshirthell. com/store/product.php?productid=902

Too much. Really. Time to get angry.
"I was analyzing a phenomenon I am seeing on the internet-- a proliferation of blogs in which the blogger identifies as a radical feminist, but does not seem to embrace the distinctives of radical feminism as we understand the term in the United States.And you know, I think it's okay if they do that, but I also think it's important to say what I said because otherwise (1) herstoric radical feminism gets erased; (2) people new to feminism never hear what herstoric radical feminism really was or is."~ Heart
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Re: This really takes the cake.. Obama -supporter T-shirt

Postby Lost Clown » Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:11 pm

Guess you didn't see this: http://www.thestranger .com/seattle/CoverArt?oid=496293
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Re: This really takes the cake.. Obama -supporter T-shirt

Postby elfeminista » Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:36 am

The New York Post, mysogynist republican fascist paper owned by Rupert Murdock has endorced Obama.....
"I was analyzing a phenomenon I am seeing on the internet-- a proliferation of blogs in which the blogger identifies as a radical feminist, but does not seem to embrace the distinctives of radical feminism as we understand the term in the United States.And you know, I think it's okay if they do that, but I also think it's important to say what I said because otherwise (1) herstoric radical feminism gets erased; (2) people new to feminism never hear what herstoric radical feminism really was or is."~ Heart
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Re: This really takes the cake.. Obama -supporter T-shirt

Postby Lost Clown » Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:56 am

Too bad Clinton all ready swept NY.

Plus: Who reads the Post?
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Re: This really takes the cake.. Obama -supporter T-shirt

Postby bluecoat28 » Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:19 am

I know there's many men out there voting for Obama just because they hate Hillary. If Hillary doesn't win the Democratic nomination, I'm most likely voting for Cynthia McKinney of the Green Party. Even though I don't agree with all of Hillary's politics, I think it's so important for women to see themselves as leaders. Obama is pseudo-progressive anyway (I mean he's better than many politicians, but at this point in my life, I really can't be psyched up for a man (so many of his fans think he's brilliant)... so I voted for Hills)
cause I'm not buying this obama-madness, especially since there's so much misogyny still directed at Hills (ya like my nickname for her? ha).

Obama is not a Progressive! ! Never has been, never will be. He is a ruling class candidate who is fooling American Progressives into voting for him under the guise of progressive slogans of "change", as well as a few progressive stances on cultural/social issues.

More importantly for Greens, Obama is probably the sleeper candidate of the Nuclear Power industry. He has NEVER opposed Nuclear Power; rather, he has shifted the goalposts to the right, with a non-regulated Nuclear Industry being the bad guys, and his regulated version being the good guys (ie. the Progresssive position).

He had accepted over $225,000 from executives and employees of Exelon, the nation's largest nuclear power plant operator. Hmmm...that doesn't sound like a grassroots support base to me.

And what about that nuclear regulation legislation he brags about? Well, it was basically re-written without teeth to the liking of the industry. Furthermore, it was never actually passed in the IL Senate. From http://www.nytimes. com/2008/ 02/03/us/ politics/ 03exelon. html?_r=2&pagewanted=2&hp&oref=slogin:



The rewritten bill also contained the new wording sought by Exelon making it clear that state and local authorities would have no regulatory oversight of nuclear power plants.

In interviews last week, representatives of Exelon and the nuclear commission said they were satisfied with the revised bill. The Nuclear Energy Institute said it no longer opposed it but wanted additional changes.

The revised bill was never taken up in the full Senate, where partisan parliamentary maneuvering resulted in a number of bills being shelved before the 2006 session ended.

Still, the legislation has come in handy on the campaign trail. Last May, in response to questions about his ties to Exelon, Mr. Obama wrote a letter to a Nevada newspaper citing the bill as evidence that he stands up to powerful interests.

"When I learned that radioactive tritium had leaked out of an Exelon nuclear plant in Illinois," he wrote, "I led an effort in the Senate to require utilities to notify the public of any unplanned release of radioactive substances."

Last October, Mr. Obama reintroduced the bill, in its rewritten form.


Obama is probably to the right of Clinton on Healthcare, if you look at it. Of course, we all know Clinton is no Progressive either, but that is already obvious to Liberals/PDA Dems/Greens. The enemy you don't know is the dangerous one. Why Liberals/PDA Dems think he's one of them is a testament to the power of his charisma, and the media. Obama is a pro-Corporate centrist. Don't take my word for it; take his. The Nuclear Industry was pleased with his centrism. From http://www.counterpunch .org/ halle02042008. html:

Shortly thereafter, Nuclear Notes, the industry's top trade publication, praised the senator. "Back during his campaign for the U.S. Senate in 2004, [Obama] said that he rejected both liberal and conservative labels in favor of 'common sense solutions.' And when it comes to nuclear energy, it seems like the Senator is keeping an open mind."


Compared to Obama, Edwards and Kucinich were crazy anti-corporate left-wingers! In my opinion, it's our job as Greens must be the first to smell a rat, and to educate.

What to do in November? I won't even go there, on the issue of voting the lesser-of-two- evils. I will be voting Green, but I don't put anyone down who doesn't share my opinion. I would just say this: I'm not longer sure that the Democrat candidate will actually actually be the lesser of two evils. Sad.

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Re: This really takes the cake.. Obama -supporter T-shirt

Postby elfeminista » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:15 am

The fact is that the only reason why hill is not winning is because she is a woman. period. It freaks me out that Women , knowing this don't act acordingly. In a way for women to vote for obama is acceptance of a position of inferiority that patriarchal society inculcates should be your "place in society".

Is the cage *that* gilded?
"I was analyzing a phenomenon I am seeing on the internet-- a proliferation of blogs in which the blogger identifies as a radical feminist, but does not seem to embrace the distinctives of radical feminism as we understand the term in the United States.And you know, I think it's okay if they do that, but I also think it's important to say what I said because otherwise (1) herstoric radical feminism gets erased; (2) people new to feminism never hear what herstoric radical feminism really was or is."~ Heart
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Re: This really takes the cake.. Obama -supporter T-shirt

Postby Lost Clown » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:34 pm

Did you see Maureen Dowd's op-ed piece about "Misogyny or racism: Which will taint the race more?" titled A Flawed Feminist Test. The last line is saying that if Hillary fails, it's her fault, not misogyny. :angryfire:
(b/c whenever someone makes a misogynist comment apparently more people become sympathetic to Hillary. Um, yeah. What reality do they live in?)
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Re: This really takes the cake.. Obama -supporter T-shirt

Postby elfeminista » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:36 pm

Although I have been for her candidacy all along, only now do i realize how important is is that She win (and she *CAN*
win!!).

I hate to say it, but now it is up to you sisters out there to make that happen, because it is more than clear that men *don't* want a Woman in power.
Unfortunately there are as Mary Daly wrote, "painted birds and token torturers" who are willing to surrender, Well, that is their problem. I think as broke as we are we need to donate what we can to achieve this milestone, and to put the most qualified **PERSON** on the democratic ticket.
The choice should not be between old shriveled up white sausage and brown sausage. I know that Hillary as President wont solve many of the problems, but it will be a concrete victory and one more accomplishment in the long struggle.
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