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Hey guys
A new yahoo group has been set up
http://groups.#####.com/group/daily_sport/
by a guy who has emailed my blog- 'daily_sport_lover'
It has 11 members so far...
The description on the home page:
"It's Britain's best newspaper. It's serves up a bevvy
of topless totty every day. It sends topless girls
along on workplace visists to keep the workers happy.
It sends busty beauties to your local bar to whack
their t!ts out and cheer people up. It opens it's
pages to amateur hornbags who want to give their
hooters an airing in a national newspaper.
And it's the only newspaper to feature a nipple count!
And feminsts campaign against it!
Join up and show your support!
We also have links to vids that'll appeal to the guys
who like the Sport.
AND we'll be taking the lusting after bimbos to a
whole new level - in both CUNTENT (ooops!) and
ATTITUDE! Just right for the 21st Century.
So if your fed up with boring cheesecake, join up!
Because here you'll get B1TCHES the way YOU want
'em!!!!" (End)
(From Charlie) You can access the messages without joining- it is
full of posts of porn and very degrading videos/images
This is war
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delphyne wrote:"You can't really defend any of these types of women, that's what men do. Do you see my point?"
Men don't defend these women. Men hate these women, they might masturbate over them but they think they are "whores" and "bitches" and are happy to call them as such. If you think men have any respect for Paris Hilton or any other woman in her position you are mistaken.
None of those comments I quoted of yours and Soopermouse's there were an attack on the system that creates the Paris Hiltons of this world, they were an attack on her as a person.
And I don't think you are attacking her because she is rich, I think you are attacking her because she is female. That's the point I'm making - going after her in the way and you and Soopermouse is doing is misogynistic. Calling *any* woman stupid for being used by men is misogynistic, calling *any* woman promiscuous is misogynistic, calling *any* woman manipulative is misogynistic. These are all sexist stereotypes that are constantly used against us.
And it's simply not true to argue as you are doing, Soopermouse that these types of criticisms will stop her becoming a role-model. Most of the reason she is in the public eye is that she is a whipping-girl for misogynists to vent their spleen on. Feminists should not be doing the same. How can we criticise anybody else for calling women stupid whores if we are doing the same ourselves?
Calling *any* woman stupid for being used by men is misogynistic, calling *any* woman promiscuous is misogynistic, calling *any* woman manipulative is misogynistic. These are all sexist stereotypes that are constantly used against us.
That's just great - so you work, jerk, squirt, fuck and lurk"
CoolAunt wrote:Whoa! I think I may have had a light bulb moment here.
What I get from this is that it's possible that some women are stupid, promiscuous, and/or manipulative but that it does women no good when other women label them as such because it's like jumping on the misogynist band wagon. All it does is give misogynists another example of how all women are those things and how we even know and agree that we are.
???
soopermouse wrote:Do you seriously think that the mysoginists hate her? I don't. Because she is everything they want her to be. She is the role model that they are pushing onto the little girl of today to prepare her to be the sex object of tomorrow. And this is the path that she chose for herself.
delphyne wrote:
And it is the path *they* chose for her. In fact you contradict yourself right there - you acknowledge that she is the role model that "they" (the patriarchy) are pushing but when she supposedly chooses this path suddenly it's her fault. Or do you think Paris Hilton came up with the blonde bimbo persona all by herself?
Army can i use that one please? I love it! Full anon credits given of course. Hope your P.C. gets its lurgy sorted out. I'll miss your *floral* rants. Hehe
Army Of Me wrote:Again, you are taking far too seriously the comments that we have made about PH - and taken them out of context - - we aren't going to agree on this and so I'm not posting any more after this. Going around in circles really, and we will have to agree to disagree.
PH has a right to her life, and we have a right to say what our opinion is of her and her chosen career/image. Yes, some of the language is cynical, but as women, we have a right to be.
You are picking apart everything to try to find fault - when the whole picture is what we are looking at.
OK - and when I said men defend these women, right - deep breath - I will spell it out - men defend their right to think whatever they like about these kinds of women - they defend their right to make her or break her, as she exists, they will defend her. They love women like her, if they didn't why would there be so many like her?
Again, what is your alternative solution to criticism of men's power to create women as products? How would you express your opinion of the products?
Again, hopefully, getting back to the original theme, she will emerge after one year as a woman with new values and be able to share them with her admirers. But I'm not holding my breath. I hope she does though. That would be great - fine and dandy - super dooper!.
I am really going to think twice now before ever posting a new topic.
Men love hating women. That's the only love involved here.
My solution is to criticise men's power, to criticise the men that do this, the men that create these women and consume them.
Army Of Me wrote:There you go.
Really, just let's put this to bed
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