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[soopermouse]

vg1
you do not know me...
Because I am yet to see what does luck have to do with being born in a third world country, to an alcoholic mother and drunk abusive father? To be sexually abused as a child, to survive a moribund communism in which at any time someone could pick up those you love from your home and you'd never see them again, to the little and bad food on food cards and 6 hours of electricity and 8 hours of running water per day. Did luck take me out? Nope, I did it myself, and with work. Luck had nothing to do with it.

Nothing. And sure as hell does not even begin to par with being born in a rich country... but that is another story.

I never claimed to be in any way "better than you". First, because i do not KNOW you, and I refuse to operate on assumptions.

But I will not shut up because the chip on anyone's shoulder, and if you expect validation from me, or from anyone else, for your choices... that is your problem. Neither myself nor anyone else owes you that validation, and that is, as far as I am concerned, the end of it.

Do not expect me to be quiet about my achievements, such as they are- not much in the context and a lot less than what I wanted them to be, because they might upset you or anyone else. I am not in the business of protecting anyone's sensitivities, and I do not expect anyone to protect mine.

[soopermouse]

Soopermouse, I am asking you this not as a challenge but out of ignorance,is an eating disorder not a choice? I think this question is a big mystery to a lot of people, I always assumed it was like an addiction.

Not really. An eating disorder is a psychological problem, and normally treated as such. Normally associated with severe mental depression. It is listed as a mental affliction by the American Association of Psichiatrists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulimia_nervosa

[resisterance]

luck has a ton to do with it soopermouse. there are thousands of women with backgrounds similar to yours who worked and sweated and tried and cried and not all of them will still be here. did they deserve less than you? did they work less than you? are you any better than the ones who didnt make it?

there is nothing wrong at all with being proud of your achievements, what is wrong is when you start judging people by what they appear to have achieved, or not.

and you don't know me either soopermouse, but you've made a helluva lot of presumptions about me. you write your history like i should be silenced by it but it isnt all that different to mine. perhaps you think we should have to fill out some sort of oppression checklist? i empathise with your background soopermouse but ive been through the mangle myself, and i think most of us here have.

im not shit because i didnt achieve what you have. you're not better than me. get over yourself.

[soopermouse]

luck has a ton to do with it soopermouse. there are thousands of women with backgrounds similar to yours who worked and sweated and tried and cried and not all of them will still be here. did they deserve less than you? did they work less than you? are you any better than the ones who didnt make it?

there is nothing wrong at all with being proud of your achievements, what is wrong is when you start judging people by what they appear to have achieved, or not.

and you don't know me either soopermouse, but you've made a helluva lot of presumptions about me. you write your history like i should be silenced by it but it isnt all that different to mine. perhaps you think we should have to fill out some sort of oppression checklist? i empathise with your background soopermouse but ive been through the mangle myself, and i think most of us here have.

im not shit because i didnt achieve what you have. you're not better than me. get over yourself.

it was never at any point my intention to state that i consider myself better than anyone, including yourself.

I am proud of myself. But that does not imply that I consider you or anyone else inferior. I gave you the background details because I wanted you to understand something about who I am.

[resisterance]

i understand that youve come through hell to get to where you are right now and i think you have every reason to be totally proud of yourself.

but i dont think its fair to judge other women as weak or lazy for not achieving what you have done. nothing is ever that simple.

[resisterance]

i know i might be coming across as "nicer than thou" and thought it was worth saying that this doesnt come naturally to me, seeing as i also have been conditioned to view other women as competitors or as good women/bad women.

i mean, ive slagged off vicky beckham and ive hated j lo and i've said all sorts of nasty misogynist things about them. and sometimes i catch myself thinking these things even now when i think im hyper aware of it.

i just wanted to say that. im just as guilty as anyone else of misogynist thoughts, ive called other women slags, i've called other women bitches, and i've said other women probably asked for it. im totally ashamed of all of it but i have done it and i have to own up to that. id like to think im never going to do it again but its likely i will, ill probably see some tragic music video and think something bloody stupid and feel automatically terrible, but i think we need to develop our awareness of our own misogynist feelings towards ourselves and each other.

[CoolAunt]

i know i might be coming across as "nicer than thou" and thought it was worth saying that this doesnt come naturally to me, seeing as i also have been conditioned to view other women as competitors or as good women/bad women.

i mean, ive slagged off vicky beckham and ive hated j lo and i've said all sorts of nasty misogynist things about them. and sometimes i catch myself thinking these things even now when i think im hyper aware of it.

i just wanted to say that. im just as guilty as anyone else of misogynist thoughts, ive called other women slags, i've called other women bitches, and i've said other women probably asked for it. im totally ashamed of all of it but i have done it and i have to own up to that. id like to think im never going to do it again but its likely i will, ill probably see some tragic music video and think something bloody stupid and feel automatically terrible, but i think we need to develop our awareness of our own misogynist feelings towards ourselves and each other.

Me, too, vgl. A couple of years ago, after breaking up with a boyfriend over his porn collection and usage, I hated him, everyone who used porn, everyone who made porn. I got into it with at least one feminist over it and I couldn't be swayed. There's no way in hell that I could have even tried to view sex industry and glam workers objectively. There was too much pain blurring my vision.

Today, I'm more understanding and compassionate toward the women who work in those industries. And I've just learned that it's best to remain quiet than to judge those for whom I can't find that understanding and compassion. Yet I wouldn't chastise or correct a woman who's just left a man because he was a prostiteur or pornsturbator if she made judgments against or ugly euphemisms for women in the sex industry. She's hurt and lashing out. I think we've all been put in that situation by the pornsitution industry and those who use it. That's why we're here at genderberg. How objective we can be will be affected by where we are on the "hurt by pornstitution" continuim, I believe.

[oneangrygirl]

*notes that CoolAunt used three new words invented by Genderberg members*