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[TheArrantFeminist]

I think I would like to add my two cents to this debate as well. To start off, let me acknowledge that my life experience is probably the most limited of anyone here - I think I am actually THE youngest member of Genderberg, being 19 and a sophomore in college - and that I am always self-concious about sounding naive or presumptuous to those of you who have lived in the world and experienced misogeny for far longer than I have. However, for what it's worth, let me tell you what I think:

The phenomenon of disadvantaged women perpetuating their own subjugation fits into the greater sociological template of any socially, politically, or economically disadvantaged group falling into a cycle which reinforces their unfavorable circumstances. Basically, as fallible human beings, we are all susceptible to varying degrees of personal weakness, discouragement, dispair, poor motivation, etc. Those with a comfortable amount of economic, cultural, and/or social capital may never have to learn how they would fare in the face of closed door after closed door, but for the less advantaged, it is a different story.

A person born with less aid to success than her peers has a stunted potential before she ever even sets foot into the world. Once in that situation, it takes a higher level of intelligence, determination, and talent for her to succeed than it would for someone who was advantaged from the beginning. Upon recognition of this disparity, she may become frustrated and disheartened as she watches equal-abled peers going farther faster and with less effort.

This kind of discouragement has a very serious negative effect on people. If unable to meet the extra, disproportionately high requirements necessary for success in that situation, they may simply fail where someone from a different background would have made it. And after a certain number of unjust failures, people stop trying.

However, even when they have had enough - when they have maxed out their potential for inspiration and a positive attitude - the standards necessary for their survival do not change, and so they will stagnate in failure and dispair, with the only thing evident from the outside being that they gave up. Society will look at these people, ignorantly slandering them as complacent and irresponsible, but never knowing whether they themselves would have managed any better in that situation.

The sticky part is, that it IS still possible to succeed from a disadvantaged position. There are plenty of people who come from bad circumstances, but who fiercely struggle to keep pace with those around them, and eventually succeed. However, this is very difficult, not possible for everyone, and certainly not as common as might be believed by the brainwashed capitalists still clinging to vestiges of the "American Dream" (there is a reason it is called a dream and not a reality).

Anyway, this same model can easily be extrapolated to the context of gender to explain why women perpetuate their own subjugation. Why? Because they are weak, fallible human beings like everyone else. Some may be strong enough to overcome a disadvantage, but it cannot be expected of everyone. Many women see that doors have been closed to them, particularly if they are poor, and they may misguidedly initiate a cycle which will eventually lock in and fixate its iron bars around them. This may happen without a woman ever receiving a fair chance at life.

I believe that discouragement is a powerful thing, and can be potentially devastating for those not equipped with a superior stamina and coping ability.

[Army Of Me]

No offence Army of Me, I just don't see your point. Even if a woman has money and enters the glamour industry - why isn't she a victim of patriarchal expectations? Whether it's for celebrity/money/accolades - it hardly makes a difference - it's based on what is the current currency of status leverage or gains, and those rules aren't made by women - they are made by patriarchal institutions.

That is exactly what I was saying - and I'm insulted at the post which intimated at blaming women - I have not blamed any women - I blamed the culture and system which seems to push women towards "glamour" as a career, even "advantaged women".

I was origninally merely challenging a statment made that there is no help available for poorer women, that's all - blame was not the point and I would never blame a woman in the sex industry - this is pissing me off - the point was missed entirely. I stated clearly that it's still hard to succeed, and in no way intimated that poor women were to blame.

But what I do have a problem with, is that the women who portray themselves as human barbies, are held up as role models for girls on national tv, and I'm tired of hearing (one example mentioned - Lea on BB), them whine about how they are not accepted and even she would say she has said she is a "victim", but she is saying her way of dealing with her abusive marriage and low self-esteem was to empower herself by injecting herself with silicone, spending a fortune on teeth and hair, and liposuction - that's not empowerment - and yes, it was the system that influenced her to do this, but it's the voice of the male-defined culture and patriarchy speaking and defending it, not hers. But to many ears, that voice is hers, not patriarchy's. But she still has a brain, and so do other people. IMO, that's a legitimate gripe, and far too much has been read into this.

[delphyne]

"Instead, I'm having difficulty understanding why no female glamour or sex worker is to ever be held accountable, not even those who truly did have choices and were aware of those choices. Nor are the glamour and sex workers who require or want more money than can be earned behind a cash register to be accountable. Yet all hetero males, even those who aren't consumers of pornstitution, don't condone the use of pornstitution, and won't befriend the men who do use it, are to be held accountable for pornstitution if his reasons for not using pornstitution aren't the "right" reasons and he doesn't follow a list of "dos" and "don'ts" that apply to all other areas of his life. No female porn worker has any bearing on the perpetuation of porn while even non-porn using men do.

Even more odd is that while women who are glamour and porn workers are not accountable for perpetuating the belief that women's bodies are for sale and are to be abused, I and other women at these boards have recently been informed that we are accountable for perpetuating those same lies because we continue to wear mascara and shave our legs. Use boobs to make money = not accountable. Use razor on legs = accountable. I doubt that my shaved arm pits have ever helped a man justify making his fantasy of rape a reality nor has it influenced a girl to work topless for a living. I can't say the same for the glamour girls and sex workers."

Well I don't know who is telling you that you have to be held accountable for shaving your legs or wearing mascara, someone who hasn't got a full grasp of feminism perhaps. I certainly don't hold women who wear make-up accountable nor do I hold women in the porn or glamour industry accountable. I don't think those choices are feminist choices but that's something quite different. Women are put under enormous pressure to fit into those roles whether it's wearing make-up or becoming a glamour model - there is a whole industry of agents, photographers and distributors waiting to prey on women and try and suck them into that industry. I wonder how many women wake up and decide "I'll become a glamour model" and how many have "boyfriends" who take a few photos of them and push them in that direction. When I was a teenager that was done to both of my best friends by their photographer boyfriends. I bet quite a few of us here have had the experience of some sleazy bloke coming up to us in the street saying "you could be a model". Some women are naive or innocent enough to be flattered by that.

It also isn't politically useful to blame the women who have ended up being sexually exploited by men. In the same way that the only way to end prostitution is to tackle demand the only way to end the sexual objectification and exploitation of women's bodies in the media is to go after the consumers. And the people who are driving this business aren't women. Using the example of Big Brother, which has already had a mention here, despite the fact that the majority of viewers of the programme are women, the producers of Big Brother still have decided to pick female constestants who are exhibitionists and who have undergone breast enlargement. They aren't doing that to appeal to the female section of their audience. Men are being catered to even when it probably doesn't suit the majority of their audience. What it does suit is the producers, as not only can they have some objectified women for their male viewers to gawk at, they can set those women up to be hated by the female section of the audience at the same time.

I don't have any problem seeing women in the glamour industry as victims of the patriarchy and male supremacy. It's their bodies which are being used and exploited. Blaming them is like blaming a Nike sweat-shop worker for being oppressed by poverty.

[sunnysmiles]

Applying what I learned from that discussion to this one, I have empathy for the glamour workers. Like ArmyOfMe, however, I can't wrap my mind around the lack of accountability that's granted to every woman who...well, to every woman, it seems. No matter what she does or what career choice she makes (not all have much choice but some do), they are not to be held accountable, in this case because men decided that women's bodies are commodities.

See, the fundamental issue that I am reading here in your post is about "choice" vs. "no choice"... Choice arguments are very murky. I would honestly say that almost all our choices are 'limited', in that somehow/someway we are conditioned into accepting the reality of the way we live. What constitutes 'true' choice? Not much really, when you think about it - because we aren't offered that many 'alternatives'. Right now in our world women are up against conforming to ridiculously high standards of body modification. Women gain 'prestige' from sexualizing themselves. Times are different now from let's say when both you and I were teens. Role models WERE different. women were given accolades on some level from family and friends for some of their educational/career successes. Now most women/girls are given accolades for their sex appeal. In order to 'fit in', women enter these industries. Imagine if everyone around you thought you were super hot, and they encouraged you that it was only normal to take off your clothes for money? That is what girls are even suggested to do by parents today... Just look at the careers of these child pop-teen sensations like britney, beyonce and jessica, it was their PARENTS who convinced them to be sexee. Often times managing their career and MAKING their CLOTHES for them. And their just middle-class, imagine what working-class (and yes you are right, this means lower-income women) families must have to tell their daughters to do for money (and no I do not mean that this is a norm amongst working class families, just that if this world has already "normalized" sexualization of women - than it's more likely that working class girls would be likely to take the crap jobs that other women don't want).

Yet I didn't take work at the local topless clubs, I didn't take up any of the subtly stated offers I received from would-be sugar daddies...heck, I didn't even rob the safes or tills of any of the restaurants or stores that I worked for. I couldn't do those things, even if they wouldn't have made me ill (topless clubs, mistress offers), even if I'd known for sure that I wouldn't have been caught (safes and tills) because I held myself accountable for my actions.

Please do not take this personally, but our world was different back then. If you grew up in the 80's or 90's, pornography was NOT readily available. Being a woman who was career oriented was somewhat an achievement, though friction between 'women's roles' was building up. Even places like 7/11 refused to carry PLAYBOY in the late 80's and 90's... Our world WAS different. Our social conditioning WAS different. No one wore a playboy bunny shirt to school, no one wore 'pornstar' t-shirts to school. Hell, a lot of clothing was androgenous, albeit sometimes in different colours.

Instead, I'm having difficulty understanding why no female glamour or sex worker is to ever be held accountable, not even those who truly did have choices and were aware of those choices. Nor are the glamour and sex workers who require or want more money than can be earned behind a cash register to be accountable.

I don't know how to answer this question, but delphyne seems to have answered some of it already. I think people generally do what's in their best interest. Right now, being sexy is in women's best interest - to clarify that is why I shave my legs and wear make-up. We get attention/money/feeling of temporary empowerment from being 'sexy'. Sad but true.

Yet all hetero males, even those who aren't consumers of pornstitution, don't condone the use of pornstitution, and won't befriend the men who do use it, are to be held accountable for pornstitution if his reasons for not using pornstitution aren't the "right" reasons and he doesn't follow a list of "dos" and "don'ts" that apply to all other areas of his life.

Yes, I agree feminist women can be a little skeptical of feminist men sometimes - but at the end of the day we have seen movement after movement of women organizing for our right's being hijacked by MEN! We see this again and again, men (not intentionally) start writing about feminism - end up being heard more by society than - the women who generate those ideas in the first place. I think any good feminist man would know that he is in a position of privilege, and should not mind his scrutinization. I have to be honest, I am somewhat disappointed that the men at genderberg do not participate in getting the word out a bit more though!!!

Just like WHITES hold a position of privilege over people of colour. Just like able-bodied people hold privilege over the disabled. See this is where things get complicated - the world and it's institutions are based on 'ideas'. Ideas just before mass 'globalization' were generated by white men who were in positions of power - these ideas have seeped religious/moral/political/economic/biological/cultural insitutions of every society in the world (either due to colonization/mass rape of societies OR through holding other positions of power in their own society). These ideas were formulated to benefit white men - and were 'androcentric' and 'racist'. Laws/regulations etc... were created for their own benefit. Unfortunately, by using the above structures & institutions to proliferate these ideas - we have the situation we are in today - were the ideas behind our institutions have lingered, because of the 'force' or power that these men exerted from the get go....

Do you see now, how it is really difficult - to 'seperate' how we think from what we do - and how we must constantly 'watch' ourselves if we want to be examples for others? I.e. I think any good feminist man knows that it's pretty damn easy to slip up after years of social conditioning... so it's important to remain in check always.

No female porn worker has any bearing on the perpetuation of porn while even non-porn using men do.

Even more odd is that while women who are glamour and porn workers are not accountable for perpetuating the belief that women's bodies are for sale and are to be abused, I and other women at these boards have recently been informed that we are accountable for perpetuating those same lies because we continue to wear mascara and shave our legs. Use boobs to make money = not accountable. Use razor on legs = accountable. I doubt that my shaved arm pits have ever helped a man justify making his fantasy of rape a reality nor has it influenced a girl to work topless for a living. I can't say the same for the glamour girls and sex workers.

I have to run, but I will be back in the evening to write more... I hope I haven't gone too far, and explained to you what you already know.....

I just don't know any other way to tell you. I do have a 'gender dissecting tool' that I wrote up for my first year TA class.... If you would like it - I can post it up, if that helps at all. It's pretty basic though.

[Jimmy H.]

I have to be honest, I am somewhat disappointed that the men at genderberg do not participate in getting the word out a bit more though!!!

sunnysmiles, I certainly do not mean to reduce your well-thought and detailed response to Delphyne to the above sentence, but I would like to ask you what you mean exactly by "participate in getting the word out".

[sunnysmiles]

I'm sorry - I really don't mean to offend anyone in particular Jimmy, but I guess - it would be good to see more involvement in genderberg and the calls for actions. That's all. I think there are so few men who have anti-porn views, that the few men there are, it would be good to see more anti-porn writing come out from them! Maybe I am asking for something contradictory, men to also address anti-porn positions. Entire journals like "violence against women" etc... are usually filled with articles by women. Besides the handful of repetitive names that keep coming up in regards to anti-porn and men, it would be good to see new names from a younger generation, i.e. an porn-saturated generation. I know all of you do excellent work in your blogs/attendance at rallies/bringing articles to genderberg - but maybe more 'personal' writing would be good too. More anti-porn specific writing too. Or just more participation in actions/more advocating of actions. I say all this because I KNOW YOU ARE HONEST FEMINIST MEN! You are also really critical and self-aware feminist men, and maybe that is why my expectations are higher.

I do not mean to offend your sensibilities - it's only my personal expectation, which really does not mean much and I apologize if that hurts you and the others on the site.

[rich]

I do not mean to offend your sensibilities

Offend all the fucking sensibilities you want! [/list]

[Jimmy H.]

sunny,

Thank you for this clarification. I didn't take any offense to what you said (really, I ask for criticism and scrutiny), but I just could not figure out what you meant exactly. I think, and I mean it, that expectations should be higher for anti-porn pro-feminist men, because, no matter how much they learn, sympathize, understand, and how good they are as allies, the fact is still that they will never experience living as a female-born woman in a patriarchal society.

I was about to address your points about activism and "personal writing", but it is almost 4 AM here and my English is getting pretty confused (not to mention that I still have a dissertation chapter to finish). I'll try to get to that later, but for now, I want to thank you for expressing your frustration and expectations; that kind of honesty is the only way to be helpful to each other and therefore to our common struggle.

(Edited for clarity.)

[sunnysmiles]

phew, I was worried I had offended too many people on genderberg today! Being a mod, that wouldn't be good.

Thanks also for your honesty Jimmy, that's precisely what I am talking about !

[CoolAunt]

Please do not take this personally, but our world was different back then.

Calling me an old hag, are you?

Delphyne, sunny, thanks for your responses. Your messages here are a lot to digest in one sitting. Give me a day or two to take it all in.

ArmyOfMe, I didn't mean to imply that you blamed the glam workers.

Be well.

[sunnysmiles]

Please do not take this personally, but our world was different back then.

Calling me an old hag, are you?

NEVER!

Hey Army of Me - sorry I misunderstood you earlier too!

[soopermouse]

it seems to me that you have a pretty low opinion of the young women of the 00's. Because you seem to be treating them as children who do not have the ability to make their own choices, and as such they are not responsible for their actions, and I resent that. We are all responsible for our actions. Even in a patriarchal society, we still have some choices, and by making it appear that the sexualizing as career choice is ( almost) compulsory, you are denying recognition for the rest of the young women, namely those that do not become models or sex workers, which funny enough happen to be the majority. Do you know why? BEcause the majority of the women actually do not fit into the porn object standard of looks.

I am sorry, but I am not buying this "treat women like powerless infants" crap. Women are full human beings, they make choices, they can screw up and we cannot blame the patriarchy for all of them. If you deny women the responsibility for their actions and try to coddle them in the " she was forced to do so by the Patriarchy" blanket, you are dehumanizing them and treating them like inferiors that are incapable of making their own choices, just like te Patriarchy has done for a long time.

Yes, there is a certain pressure on the girls to act like sex objects. A lot of it. HOWEVER, I am tired of this attitude that says that most of the girls are taking this path, an dthat they are not responsible for their actions because of the patriarchal society they live in.

Strange as it might seem, the young women of today still manage to have careers, to study and to have lives that are NOT those of glamour models.

Let's stop with making excuses. Last time that happened, we ended up with the pornification of society because some feminists decided to defend everything all women did as their choice, and not to be criticized. You are falling into the same pit.

Let's call the glamour model career as what it is- the easy and lazy way out. Let's treat these girls like adults and hold them accountable for their decisions. Treating them as powerless children is not only wrong, it is badly insulting for them.

[Army Of Me]

sunny and CA - No offense was taken at your posts - I didn't think either of you misunderstood me.

sunny, briefly (errr, not now after all the edits) , (can't be bothered to do the quote thing), as I am probably the oldest here, your point about "things being different", - they were different in that, the pornification of girls was still there, it's just that the situation was in a kind of infancy, the seeds were there and it was waiting to evolve the way it is today. I remember being stalked and offered money for sex in my teens.

Marilyn Monroe was pervasive in the 50s as being the ideal woman, as was Jayne Mansfield - hyper-sexualised images even then.

If you have lived long enough, you don't see a separation, you see the evolution, a seamless increase. It's been there all the time. We are all saying the same thing here. Yes, there used to be a somewhat slightly invisible cultural and social divide, but the porn was there, and not hard to find.

In many of my posts, I have always stated that it has been clear that the pornification issue has been left alone for too long. After the 60s when the basic issue of women only being valued as sex-objects, and hugh hefner and his bunny girls were singled out, amongst other people, as insulting and damaging to women, and these issues were seriously being addressed by public protests (and was exactly like the rally in london a few weeks ago! I thought I was in a time warp!)women were shouted down and the public protests fizzled out, women were media-crucified back then and many just gave up- the press would not give them a platform - so then the media turned the tables and started selling women the lie that feminism was what true feminism was not - that is, being a sex-object was empowering after all! This lie has been slowly evolving and drip-fed to women over the years, and also allowed men permission to openly gawp at images of sexualised naked women on display everywhere - and that's why it's such an issue today and is why so many girls, privledged or not, want to go into being sexualised and adored - girls have always been told that their power lies in their looks, it's just that these days, this message has way overshot into mainstream way past the point of being normal (if it ever was normal to focus solely on a girl's looks as her only value in life), and is harming women (and men) - we all know that. That's why women really need to open their eyes, start using their brains, seeing the bigger picture, and seeing through the bullshit.

I am not arguing that it's now so ingrained in culture that it will be very hard to change - but if women don't start waking up, and seeing that these umpteen, solely focused, over-hyped, over-saturated, hyper-sexualised "role models" (and yes, I think many of these "role models" one day soon they will have to be held up as accountable for perpetuating the situation we have now - it's called personal responsibility and we all have go face this at some time or another), we really do have a bleak (non) future - and yet I still have hope - you only have to read posts in this forum and on other blogs etc to keep the fire going and to know there is hope.

And as for the other side of personal responsibility, men need to take blame too, and their side of this issue is the most important - if they stopped demanding and supporting the normalisation of women as fuck-objects, for all to see in their everyday lives, this would sure as hell help too - media too has a helluva lot to answer for. They are to blame for creating this mass market - which came first, the demand or the creation of more demand by the media? Who fuckin knows now?

As for the anti-porn, pro-feminist men out there, IMHO, it's just good to know they are there and saying "we support you". Going back to the 60s demonstrations, there were men who joined in those, and they were a visible presence, that's why these rallys are good, you can "see" the male support.

I'm groggy and not putting things very well, no doubt I will edit this again. Yep, I was right, I did - got warmed up and off I went - sorry admin.

[CoolAunt]

The sticky part is, that it IS still possible to succeed from a disadvantaged position. There are plenty of people who come from bad circumstances, but who fiercely struggle to keep pace with those around them, and eventually succeed.

Being one of those women who started out at a disadvantage, the only thing I'd change here, if it were about me, is that I never struggled to keep pace with other people and still don't. I struggled to survive, then to make my life a little more than mere working and struggling just to live under a roof and to eat. Went through a very short-lived "designer label" phase, you might call it. That was about it for my trying to keep up with the Smiths and the Joneses. My experiences taught me that material items aren't that important.

However, this is very difficult, not possible for everyone...

It takes a lot of strength and courage just to keep going. It should not be attempted by the faint of heart or those who don't know how to do without. Maybe physical abuse and neglect made me strong, assertive, bold, courageous. (Unfortunately, I'm also blunt, undiplomatic and lacking in tact, things that I always have to monitor myself for.) And, as a child, I yearned for a better life, which meant living in a clean environment, a home without violence, and creature comforts.

...and certainly not as common as might be believed by the brainwashed capitalists still clinging to vestiges of the "American Dream" (there is a reason it is called a dream and not a reality).

Easy now. I know some people who've lived the American dream. It's called a dream because our dreams can come true, but we have to work for them.

Anyway, this same model can easily be extrapolated to the context of gender to explain why women perpetuate their own subjugation. Why? Because they are weak, fallible human beings like everyone else.

Greed is a weakness and some of those who chose glam or sex industry work due so out of greed. They may also ignorantly believe that those jobs will put them in a position of adoration and the sexual desire of males, jealousy of "normal" women, and that it's glamorous work. In my opinion, vanity and conceit are weaknesses, too.

I believe that discouragement is a powerful thing, and can be potentially devastating for those not equipped with a superior stamina and coping ability.

Again comparing these women's situations and backgrounds to mine, my coping skills sucked but I had what we call in the south "gumption." If some other idiot has learned how to do it, there's no reason that this idiot can't learn to do it, too.

That generally explains why even though my background was the same as many glam and sex industry workers, my decisions differed.

Enough about me. Any other working class girls wanna' chime in here. Input from others, whether they worked in the glam and sex industries or not, would be interesting.

[Army Of Me]

All I can really add to that CA, is that glam work does not really pay all that well, yes, a select few end up being at the top for awhile, just like other professions I suppose.

The lapdance profession is a case in point - there is now such a glut of dancers that it's a real hustle to compete, and even if the money is great for awhile, the career progression is in reverse to what a "normal" job would be due to burn out from drug-taking, eating disorders, drinking and smoking, and the weird unhealthy hours and the working atmosphere. Maybe some are smart and get out after they get their qualifications, maybe some are smart enough to invest some of the money for later in life when they need to have something to fall back on - many just neglect their skills and training, so the initial big money is on a downward sliding scale.

The idea that going into the "glam" industry is well paid may have been true for some at some point, but is no longer - the old law of supply and demand, over-supply = cheaper to buy - the dances cost less, and there are many more dancers competing for the money. I have said this before but a photographer once told me - "most of the girls aspiring to be models, I tell them, don't give up your day job, as these days, you can get just about anyone, to do just about anything, for just about nothing".

And yet many are still willing to get on that porn/glam low-paid conveyor belt, not just in the hope that they will be the next jordan, but also because they feel validated by being adored for their looks, as the non-verbal message they have received all their lives is that their only value is in their looks and how "hot" they are.

[soopermouse]

http://sparklematrix.blogspot.com/2006/ ... rt-ii.html

sparkle matrix has some interesting findings- women who have had boob jobs are at a thre times higher risk of suicide than those who don't.

[Army Of Me]

I remember reading about that study.

Let's see now.........hyper-sexualised imagery of women all around......uummmm........... women picking up not-so-subtle messages all their lives, by men and media that this will make you more valued as a woman if you look like this............ errrrr.........women who are otherwise fairly secure have little seeds of insecurity planted, regular fertiliser in the form of as much high-visibility imagery reinforcement at regular intervals applied for quick growth ...............high self-esteem side-shoots regularly hacked out...........eeerrrrr..... depression body-image side-sprouts start to grow - these grow quite well on their own ...........uhhhhh..........Women aleady who are insecure, with low self-esteem noting the non-verbal messages, and seeds planted as above, particular attention being paid to hacking out any signs of budding high-self-esteem ..........ummmmmmm........stories read in women's mags of readers who just love their new breasts.......... getting there?.......lemme see........articles in women's mags and advice columns turning the issue back around to blaming women for their insecurity- don't blame anyone but yourself...... errrrrr.........creation of more "beating themselves up" for feeling "wrong"...................uuummmmmmm......advice in men's and women's mags about men's porn use being "normal" and that women are wrong to feel upset......sigh.....other celebs saying that it's "natural" for men to sleep with other women and that they allow their husbands to do it, and don't mind............... uuuhhhhh, I dunno........note taken of competition in high-profile lad's mag for a man to "win a boob job for your girfriend"...........and uhhhhhh.......celebs who they think look weird cuz they haven't had implants........ then many normal women actually have the operations - bigger porn-like breasts = higher self-esteem?........... oh........ nope sorry, can't see the suicide connection at all. The disproportionate increase is probably due to PMS - storm in a DD cup - I know, I read it in Maxim.

[soopermouse]

precisely why someone needs to point out that the boob jobs are dangerous because they increase the delusion and feed the self loathing

[Army Of Me]

and maybe the delusion,self-loathing and the demand would greatly decrease, and self-esteem increase, if the root of the problem was addressed.

[soopermouse]

and maybe the delusion,self-loathing and the demand would greatly decrease, and self-esteem increase, if the root of the problem was addressed.

sexism and mysoginy that is